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THE CLINTON TESTIMONY

Lewinsky Excerpts: A Smitten Intern Who 'Fell in Love'

September 22, 1998

These are excerpts from the deposition by former White House intern Monica S. Lewinsky, dated Aug. 26. Some readers may be offended by parts of the testimony.

Question: The next encounter listed is Jan. 21 of '96, also on page 2 of the exhibit. Could you describe how that encounter occurred and what happened during the encounter?

Answer: Yes. I was--actually, I'm looking at this right now, and I think it might have been a Saturday--no, it was a Sunday. I'm sorry. Never mind. I think it might have been a Saturday, but it, it says here Sunday. I just noticed that.

I was--I had been in my office doing work, and I was leaving, leaving for the day. And as I was walking through the residence hall to go through the West Wing to the Old Executive Office Building, I heard his voice behind me. And either he called my name, or I just heard his voice and turned around, and he had just come off of the elevator and, I guess, was going back to his office.

So, we were, we were--we stopped, and we spoke as we continued to walk through the outdoor corridor by the Rose Garden. And when we got to the point where he turns left to then go into the Oval Office, he told me that I could go out this way with him, that I could leave through the, that I could leave through the Oval Office. So, we walked down the pathway together and then went into the Oval Office from there.

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Q: And could you describe your encounter once you got into the Oval Office.

A: Yes. We had, we had already had phone sex for the first time the week prior, and I was feeling a little bit insecure about whether he had liked it or didn't like it, and I just--I felt in general that I didn't know--from having spoken to him on the phone, you know, prior to having phone sex and from having had these encounters with him, I didn't know if this was sort of developing into some kind of a longer-term relationship than what I thought it initially might have been; that maybe he had some regular girlfriend who was furloughed or something during the furlough.

And at that point, I, you know, I said to him, you know, I asked him why he doesn't ask me any questions about myself, and doesn't he, you know, is this just about sex, you know, because if it is, then I just want to know that; or do you have some interest in trying to get to know me as a person. And so he kind of laughed at the manner in which I was asking him and talking to him.

And we, we went into the back study and he was, he was waiting for a friend of his to come to the office, and he was talking about that he has a lot of--that he doesn't get a lot of time to himself and he really cherishes the private times that he has with his friends, and he cherishes the time that he had with me, which seemed a little bit odd to me at that time.

But he, he was upset that day about the first soldier in Bosnia had been--I believe it was that day that it was the first soldier in Bosnia had been killed just recently, and he was very upset and moved. And so I was trying to comfort him.

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Q: When you say you thought it was odd that he said he cherished the time with you, why was that? Why did you think it was odd at that point?

A: Because I didn't feel, I didn't feel like he really knew me. We had spent time talking, but it didn't seem--and, you know, he had asked some questions and I offered a lot of information about myself. But he didn't seem to ask probing questions, when you're trying to know someone. So, it seemed a little bit odd to me that he would sort of cherish this time, when he, you know, when I felt like he didn't really even know me yet.

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Q: And at that point, sex was sort of the more dominant part of the relationship?

A: Yes.

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Q: Rather than as it became . . .

A: There was always a lot of joking that went on between us. And so we, you know, I mean, it was fun. When we were together it was fun. We would laugh and it would--we were very compatible sexually. And I've always felt that he was sort of my sexual soul mate, and that I just felt very connected to him when it came to those kinds of thing.

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Q: So on the Jan. 21 date . . .

A: Right.

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Q: How did it turn into your conversation and then go into actually having a sexual encounter?

A: I was in the middle of saying something and he just started kissing me. And, so, it was funny. It was, it was very funny.

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Q: And what room were you physically in at that time?

A: We were in the hallway. And we were kissing and oh, I had--because I was leaving, I was having a bad hair day, and this was actually the first time that I had the infamous beret on. And so I just said something to him about feeling stupid. Here I was standing here in this dumb hat, and he said that it wasn't a dumb hat, that I looked cute and he liked it.

And so then he was kissing me, or we were kissing each other I guess, and I think again he, he fondled my breasts with his hands and his mouth.

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Q: Through clothing, or not through clothing?

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