It's not just lip service

You've talked about how the experience of "Roseanne" was insulating, and when it was over, you had to relearn about the world. Has your integration into reality been successful?

Yes, it was a completely different world. No, I decided to turn my back on it. I'm remaking it in my personal image.

Do you still live in Beverly Hills,

in that big house we saw in

"The Real Roseanne Show"?

No.

And now you're building your dream house?

I'm not doing it yet, but I will. I got my farm, and I want to build a big green bamboo witchy-type house like I thought I would when I was a kid.

Do you worry about Buck missing out on socialization because of home-schooling?

I hate socialization. I'm anti-socialization, and it's all horrible. The Paris Hilton-ization of our daughters is really grotesque and disgusting -- and so's the bullying. It's just pimp culture. All of American culture is pimp culture.

Do you ever think about leaving America then, like Nina Simone did?

Yeah. I do, but then I think I'd want to go someplace safe. But there's nowhere safe. The whole world is America. You've gotta just stay and fight. My son's 11, and he said last week, "Where can I go where I won't be drafted?" What's more upsetting, if they don't bring the draft back, it'll be working-class and poor and drug-addicted people just out of prison. It has to be all kids. I'm pro-draft. Rich people have to pay too. That's democracy.

You're giving plenty of money away.

Yeah, I am, and I'm proud of it. I hesitate to say, I've given more money away than any other person in my position. When you ask people in Hollywood to give you money, they say, "I'll show up for that benefit." All these stars are so corrupt and sickening. You think showing up for a picture is doing something?

And you believe in hell?

I believe it's here in your mind on Earth and in your choices. Hell is being wrapped up in yourself while everything around you is on fire.