But in terms of celebrities, I don't care what they think on issues. And "Red Eye" is a topic-driven show. Celebrities tend to live in a plastic bubble all their lives, and suddenly in their late 20s, when they've made all their money they feel really guilty because they're incredibly wealthy. Also they feel vacuous, so they latch onto easy causes like the environment. Even worthy causes, but they attach themselves to them superficially. They actually hurt the causes that they join. I think they lead a stunted existence, where they didn't go through the normal intellectual growth that everybody else has.
"The Five," which you started helming in July, replaced Glenn Beck. How has that changed your network profile, and how are you guys approaching the gig differently?
The thing about "The Five" is that it works. It's kind of neat when something takes off organically. Put five people with strong personalities in a room to talk about stuff that happened that day. Glenn Beck had a single powerful perspective, but there are five of us, so it makes it maybe a little more unpredictable, more of a delicious mess. And they're also amazingly beautiful people, which helps. I have the greatest job — I sit next to Dana Perino, across from Kimberly Guilfoyle and I get to raise [Democratic consultant and Fox commentator] Bob Beckel's blood pressure. I try to turn his face into a red state.