"People in your own internal operation knew," Issa told Shulman. "If you didn't know, you were derelict in your duty, or your management style was such that you didn't get informed. Either way, that is certainly not something you should be proud of."
Shulman repeatedly parried questions about why he didn't do more. "At the time I learned about this list I felt I was taking the appropriate actions and I felt my course was the right one, and I still feel that way today," he said.
Many of the exchanges were testy. Some Republicans, trying to build a trail to the White House, asked Shulman what he talked about during his frequent visits to the executive mansion.
One, he pointedly noted, was "the Easter Egg roll with [his] kids." But he said he steered clear of the subject: "It would not have been appropriate to have a conversation with anyone at the White House about the subject of discriminating against conservative groups in any part of our operations."
